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barack obama's re-election, republican leaders, have a chateened and without any other obvious way to increase their vote base before 2016, pledged earlier this year. yet party leaders in part because they have been tied down since july by the debt confrontation haven't found a way to move legislation past the nativist caucus in the house. i'll go back to this anti-intellectual. deeper decline in the republican party. isn't it possible that this tea party movement or this battle over the debt ceiling, the government shutdown could help clean out the extremists part of the republican party because people are beginning to lose faith in it? >> well every purge reaches a point where the tide turns the other way and it goes too far and there's a question now in the aftermath of the government shutdown is whether the republican spaert going to rally back around its sort of center right establishment. as we've seen in earlier discussion this morning, most of the stallworth republican senators who are up next year face primary elections and they face competitive democratic candidates. they
. but that doesn't mean i embrace obama care because it's not right. >> that's republican governor of ohio sounding like a liberal. more on his interesting transformation ahead. [ female announcer ] did you know the average person smiles more than 50 times a day? so brighten your smile a healthy way with listerine® whitening plus restoring rinse. it's the only rinse that makes your teeth two shades whiter and two times stronger. ♪ listerine® whitening... power to your mouth. [ ding ] i sense you've overpacked, your stomach. try pepto to-go. it's pepto-bismol that fits in your pocket. relief can be yours, but your peanuts... are mine. ♪ female narrator: the mattress price wars are ending soon the mattress price wars are ending soon at sleep train. we've challenged the manufacturers to offer even lower prices. now it's posturepedic versus beautyrest with big savings of up to $400 off. serta icomfort and tempur-pedic go head-to-head with three years' interest-free financing, plus free same-day delivery, setup, and removal of your old set. when brands compete, you save. mattress price wars ends s
. republican senator lindsey graham wants answers and now. he is vowing to block all of president obama's nominations including the head of the federal reserve to get them. graham says it is time to hear from the survivors of the terrorist attack in which four americans were murdered in libya. and he is not going to stop until those survivors testify in front of congress. it may shouk it hasn't happened until this time but it hasn't. and barbara starr is out front. >> i want to open up the truth about benghazi. >>> republican senator lindsey graham is not letting benghazi go. his threat to block president obama's nominees now even includes janet yellen, the president's pick to head up the reserve. >> i will be asking the administration to do two things. provide access to the witnesses who lived through the attack and give us their statements they made to the fbi two days after the attack. >>> the fbi says it won't release details from the investigation. the white house insists, it is cooperating. >> that includes testifying at 13 hearings, providing over 25,000 pages of documents. >> so
at a str bucks in the u.s. >> barack obama's agenda of higher taxes on the rich and extended fax for the needy should have higher appeal. >> president obama gave mitt romney more than 70% of its vote last year. it's been voting for republicans since 1996. >> this is how we set up the store. >> they include a democrat who runs her own charity that packs free lunches for hundreds of local schoolkids. she says the hunger is genuine but is worse because of reliance on welfare payments. >> 40-45" of people don't work with families. a lot of parents are on drugs. they get ssr checks and foodstamps and cash it in at the store for buying soda pops. >> but she says cutting food stamps hurts the truly needy, including seniors. >> some people think everyone that draws foodstamps are trying to live off the system, and they are not thinking about people, in my case, that had to. it will hurt them tremendously. >> the u.s. house of representatives voted to cut billions from foodstamp services over the next few years. among those voting yes, the republicans and these countie. >> john terrett is
the aca. >> almost desperate now, the democratic party is trying to blame the republicans for the obama care debacle. will that work? we have no spin analysis. ♪ joy to the world ♪ the savior reigns. >> once again, sc
should do at this point? >> the democrats? i think that kathleen sebelius and president obama should send the house republican has giant gift basket with a big shiny red bow on top for their performance this week. it's pretty clear that republicans seem to have a penchant for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and i would say this week was no exception. it's clear that there are some problems with the rollout of the health care law, particularly obviously with healthcare.gov. but the one thing americans were not inclined to do was shut down the government over the health care law, and right now they might have been inclined to support hearings to find out what were the actual problems. but they're not willing to do was see it become part of a witch hunt or monkey court. that's why we're seeing support for the law go up and support for republicans drop to a low. >> having said that, what do you think the democrats should do next? >> i think they should try to get exactly what they were doing, which they should try to get to the bottom of the problems with healthcare.gov. and they sh
: republicans grilled president obama's top health officials, also demanding to know why millions have been kicked off their current health plan, after the president gave assurances that would not happen. >> some bureaucrat in washington said we think your plan is not good enough, even though you like it, even though you were promised you could keep it, you're now not able to keep that plan. >> reporter: cbs news, obtained this internal government memo from september 27th. it discusses incomplete security testing on the website, but still recommends an october 1st launch. >>> you have exposed millions of americans, because you all, according to your memo, believed it was an acceptable risk. >> reporter: secretary sebelius, says the memo is an authorization for further security testing and says all consumer information entered on the site is secure. in washington, danielle nottingham, wjz eyewitness news. >> thank you, danielle. complete coverage continues now with derek valcourt who is live in north baltimore, with more on local reaction here. >> reporter: hi. we're hearing a lot of stories
and today we watched as the federal official who oversees the obama care exchanges appeared before a house committee to testify about the flawed rollout of health care.gov. and we also watched as democrats on that committee reached their limit of just how much phony republican concern they can stomach. >> there had been a little bit and systematic attempt on the part of the majority in the house and the mine north in the senate to take it impossible for all americans to receive quality health care, and some of us will not stand for it. we will stand up for what is right, for what is fair and what is just. health care is a right and not a privilege. >> democrats today didn't hide their frustration with republicans suggest concern with fixing american's broken health care system. >> are you serious? what you just said? are you really serious? after what we have gone through? you can sit there and say that you had a legitimate alternative after these years? we have gone through 44 votes, 48 votes now of you trying to d dismantle the legislatuelection? >> there is no way to fix this mon stroti
, and you know, when you we look at the broader context, so the vacancies that we have under president obama, again, this means that there is a backlog despite what the republicans want to say of vacancies and you have had everyone from chief justice john roberts to the president of the aba, i'll read something chief justice roberts said. the vital resource needs of the judicial branch include the appointment of an adequate number of judges to keep the current -- keep current on pending cases at the close of 2012, 27 of the existing vacancies presenting judicial emergencies. i urge the executive and legislative branches to act diligently in nominating and confirming highly qualified candidates to fill the vacancies. talk to us about what constitutes a judicial emergency. >> well, judicial emergencies occur when there's a backlog of cases and when cases take a long time to -- >> like four years? >> -- to resolve. exactly. we see that happening across the united states. now, republicans would say, oh, there's not a judicial emergency in terms of the d.c. circuit. but if you look at it, in the
't stand obama. and, of course, obama haters a big part of this at the top. but then there is the religious right. you see, republicans love cruz so much, he was actually compared to jesus during a prayer in iowa on friday night. >> lord, we also thank you for senator ted cruz here tonight. it just seems like that we're lacking, especially on the conservative right, those leaders willing to take a stand and are willing to let the arrows come in the back of their head. and basically be crucified for their belief system. >> arrows in the back of the head? cruise filed? who on the left is doing that? all we're doing is talking about is policy, how screwed up they are. how he cares about profit and not people. now, a short time later, cruz came out and said that the shutdown, which, of course, behind closed doors, he's taking credit for, you know, orchestrating. he says it elevated the national debate. i'll tell you what it did. it shook the hell out of a lot of people internationally about just who america is. and there is no doubt that the fringe celebrity of ted cruz, it's on a roll, it's on
today. senate republicans successfully blocked two obama administration appointees. u.s. congressman mel watt of north carolina was blocked from becoming the next head of the federal housing finance agency. watt is the first sitting member of congress whose nomination has been defeated by a phil buster since, get this, 1843. and the other appointee to be blocked by patricia millett to the court of appeals. "hardball" back after this. female narrator: the mattress price wars are ending soon the mattress price wars are ending soon at sleep train. we've challenged the manufacturers to offer even lower prices. now it's posturepedic versus beautyrest with big savings of up to $400 off. serta icomfort and tempur-pedic go head-to-head with three years' interest-free financing, plus free same-day delivery, setup, and removal of your old set. when brands compete, you save. mattress price wars ends soon at sleep train. ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ >>> unfortunately there are others that are so locked in to the politics of this thing that they won't lift a finger to help their own
is to elect republicans to the senate and the house and ultimately the white house, and repair obama care, replace it, and put in place something that's going to do a better job for the american people. >> well, gee, that sounds like a great idea. wonder why nobody has tried that. we'll bring in dana milbank now, political columnist for "the washington post." dana, there's the solution. problem solved oh. let's elect some republicans and that will fix the affordable care act. >> i am sure republicans will appreciate that endorsement. they have tried that a couple times now, and they're trying it in virginia tomorrow. so far, the american people aren't going along with that plan. now, if these problems are real, and the problems with obama care are not fixed, that's an entirely different story. but i don't think it's an outright panic at this moment. >> one of the things that mitt romney did get right, dana, he is not in fact president of the united states. >> he's got that right. >> there is a new book that talks about the process he was going through called "double down," the game change
health care as well. chris christie is one of the few republican governors who embraced obama care, he's taken up the medicaid funding there. obama care doing pred pretty badly overall but tomorrow will be a victory because i assume terry mcauliffe, the promedicaid expansion and chris christie to the left of republicans also wins, something to think about as we move forward. the question for christie, he's hugged the questi eged the pres didn't hug him. >> he touched him. >> we want to be clear about that. >> it was unacceptable. too much hugging. >> the point i was going to make, i think chris christie has thoen he's moderate. the next race he may be running in is the republican presidential primary, not a place in which touching the president and being nice to him is rewarded verywoman. he should think about that. >> we have new reporting over the weekend about where the problems in the rollout may have come from. there was a memo arguing for a different person to head up implementation. there was some allegations that people were too afraid of upsetting the president to bring him th
," the place for politics. >>> more republican obstructionism on display today. senate republicans successfully blocked two obama administration appointees. u.s. congressman mel watt of north carolina was blocked from becoming the next head of the federal housing finance agency. watt is the first sitting member of congress whose nomination has been defeated by a phil buster since, get this, 1843. and the other appointee to be blocked by patricia millett to the court of appeals. "hardball" back after this. >>> unfortunately there are others that are so locked in to the politics of this thing that they won't lift a finger to help their own people. that's leaving millions of americans uninsured unnecessarily. that's a shame. because if they put as much energy into making this law work as they do in attacking the law, americans would be better off. americans would be better off. >> welcome back to "hardball." i think that was the heart of it. that was president obama speaking yesterday at a health care rally up in massachusetts, the state made famous for his so-called romney care which was used as
party republicans stood up to president obama just in these last few weeks. >> you are getting pushback from the christie camp that he was playing politics immediately after the superstorm sandy hit jersey. >> they are sense totive to that, even a year later. they are going to point out what christie said earlier this year. in the first days and hours after the storm, politics never crept into his thinking. he said -- look at it this way. most of his residents were without power and no schools were open. only 51 gas stations were operational and he had to do what he could to help the people of that state and that men working with president obama in though first hours. christie says politics never crept into it but, of course, in the year since then they certainly have. he used that to his advantage politically and is good at that. >> he is an excellent politic n politician. here is a look at other top stories we are monday orring now in the situation room. just in, "washington post" reporting redskins owner daniel snyder has told the nfl commissioner he will not change his team's name.
the problems with obama care are all the fault of republicans. welcome to "the kelly file." i'm megyn kelly. we have had a week of huge headlines on the health care roll out. dramatic hearings on the still not working website. a string of material broke withen promises from the president himself. as millions of americans find themselves kiiked off of the health care b plans they very much liked which he promised repeatedly they could keep. last night, a dma
with president obama and his appeal in a blue state going to help him if he decides to seek the republican presidential nomination when he has got a lot of conservatives who are going to really scrutinize him and question whether he is really conservative enough to be on a ticket. so kind of cuts both ways for christie. is he going to be a popular republican governor in a blue state. but what's that going to mean for him going forward when he tries to w the republican nomination when you are going four the real conservative voters. >> let's talk about another governor's race. larry, start with you. this one in virginia. terry mcauliff and ken cuccinelli. it has been all over the board, has it not. right after the government shutdown it looked like mcauliff had a wider lead. that gap seems to be kind of closing. where do they stand? what do you think? >> well, the obama care controversy has, i think, cut a couple of points off mcauliff's margin. the problem for the republican ken cuccinelli is that mcauliff ran up the score when he could during the government shutdown and raising far more m
for the moment. i do think that the rest of the world when they look at congress, and they look at obama i think on the specific thing of what happened in washington this time around, they tend to blame the republicans more than obama so they tend to -- >> i think outside you just pick it up from talking to politicians there is a general sympathy with him. i think the area where they have less sympathy with him is in terms of geopolitical leadership. they don't, to some extent the george bush excuse is now over, if he is, if his great achievement is to be somewhat nicer or more polite and get out of iraq or afghanistan and. >> rose: and to talk more. >> and talk more and listen more which he is good at listening, other people -- >> rose: most of the leaders you hear in terms of whatever -- >> everyone's cellphones conversations -- >> rose: no, no. >> it is always a notion with respect to america that, you know, they don't respect us, enough so that they listen to us. >> i think a lot of other leaders see obama as somewhat detached from things, you look at what happens in the middle east and the
saw a lot of letters being waved around. people saying they were helped, republicans had letters say they were hurt by obama care. when we get back, i'm going to tell you why i think both sides would be smart to stop waving around letters. how are things with the new guy? all we do is go out to dinner. that's it? i mean, he picks up the tab every time, which is great...what? he's using you. he probably has a citi thankyou card and gets 2x the points at restaurants. so he's just racking up points with me. some people... ugh! no, i've got it. the citi thankyou preferred card. now earn 2x the points on dining out and entertainment, with no annual fee.to apply, go to citi.com/thankyoucards stick with innovation. stick with power. stick with technology. get the flexcare platinum. new from philips sonicare. there's a lot i had to do... ... watch my diet. stay active. start insulin... today, i learned there's something i don't have to do anymore. my doctor said that with novolog® flexpen, i don't have to use a syringe and a vial... or carry a cooler. flexpen® comes prefilled with fast-act
that the website has not worked as well as it should. >> reporter: republicans say problems with president obama's health care law goes beyond healthcare.gov woes. >> the problem with obama care isn't just the website. it's the whole law. >> reporter: the comments made to the president, as he attempted to explain the reform plan. >> if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. >> reporter: but for 14 million americans who buy private health insurance, that might not be the case. julie prince got a letter from her insurance company, saying her private plan is gone. >> what concerns me is i'm not going to be able to afford anything. >> reporter: insurance companies are now required to provide hospital coverage, maternity, mental health or prescription drugs. so, americans who didn't have this basic coverage, must now buy a new plan. later today, president obama promotes obama care in massachusetts, where he'll talk about that state's experience, implementing a new health care law, and the lessons the country can learn. john and diana? >> tahman bradley, live in washington. thank you. >>> there a
means you put millions of americans' personal financial information at risk to hackers. >> republicans also complained insurance companies are canceling the policies of millions because the plans don't meet the standards of the affordable care act. president obama addressed that in his speech in boston. >> if the insurers decided to downgrade or cannes cancel the plans, under the law they have to replace it with affordable coverage. >> now, secretary sebelius said she did not know contractors wanted a delay in that october 1st launch, but earlier here on capitol hill, contractors testified that they informed cms, the so-called quarterback of the website that is under the department of health and human services, that the website was not ready. anne-marie? >> susan mcginnis in washington. thank you, susan. >>> on the "cbs moneywatch" now, extending the stimulus and big profits for facebook. wendy gillette is in the new york stock exchange. good morning. >> good morning, anne-marie. the fed acknowledged they will buy $85 billion a month in bonds to keep interest rates low and encourage bo
of you have a great weekend. >> you too, reverend. >>> coming up, inside the republican plan to sabotage health care for 30 million americans. and developing news, ted cruz responds to his father's birther comments about president obama. >>> plus, what is mitt romney saying about chris christie's weight? >>> and this atlanta city police beating caught on tape. now one officer is blowing the whistle. >> somebody that would do this shouldn't have a gun and a badge. cowards. >> stay with us. [ grunts softly ] [ ding ] i sense you've overpacked, your stomach. try pepto to-go. it's pepto-bismol that fits in your pocket. relief can be yours, but your peanuts... are mine. ♪ but, dad, you've got... [ voice of dennis ] allstate. with accident forgiveness, they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. [ voice of dennis ] indeed. are you in good hands? >>> have you joined the "politicsnation" conversation on facebook yet? we hope you will. tonight everyone was talking about this graphic showing that the republicans have been saying the deficit has been sinking duri
list and the blaze.com. senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin, former republican congressman rick lazio. i want to start with john martin of the "new york times" who broke the details. really fascinating details. talk about how the obama white house considered hillary clinton what they did about it. >> sure. this is the end of 2011. president obama's numbers were really bad at that point there. were a handful of his top aides trying to figure out a way forward. how can we be competitive in next year's re-election, win next year's re-election given the political predicament we're in. one of the options they looked at was replacing joe biden with hillary clinton on a ticket in 2012. >> when you say looked at it, polled a focus group? >> two things. the polling and focus groups, asking voters how would you respond, for example, to hillary campaigning with president obama. those kinds of questions. the person advocating for is was chief of staff will ciam bailey. exploring the research. >> did the research focus show? >> it would help but not sufficiently to make that bold of a move. there
showing that the republicans have been saying the deficit has been sinking during president obama's leadership. barbara says our debt was inherited. and peggy says the gop and tea party don't believe in facts. they continue to make up their own. do you know someone who needs some help with the facts? we've got this posted on our facebook page for you to share with your friends. head over to facebook and search "politicsnation" and like us to join the conversation that keeps going long after the show ends. r parking. that's remarkable that so much energy is, is wasted. streetline has looked at the problem of parking, which has not been looked at for the last 30, 40 years, we wanted to rethink that whole industry, so we go and put out these sensors in each parking spot and then there's a mesh network that takes this information sends it over the internet so you can go find exactly where those open parking spots are. the collaboration with citi was important for providing us the necessary financing; allow this small start-up to go provide a service to municipalities. citi has been an
. >> earlier in the show former republican nominee for president mitt romney was critical of president obama's handling of the law. >> i think the key thing that the president is trying to get away from and that is that he told people they could keep their insurance and that was not the truth, and whether you like the model of obama care or not, the fact that the president sold it on a basis that was not true has undermined the foundation of his second term. i think it's rotting it away. and i think the only way he can rebuild credibility is to work with republicans and democrats and try to rebuild a foundation. we have to have a president, we have to have a president that can lead, and right now he's not able to do so. >> as for the website, government officials now say healthcare.gov will go offline temporarily on a daily basis to fix its ongoing issues. so kind of like a highway construction project as i try to drive into work every night. edward snowden's pleas for clemency are falling on deaf ears here in the u.s.. he tried making his case in a german magazine titled manifesto for the t
. the national security agency is denying that president obama was told in 2010 of spying on germ man chancellor. the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee calls the report 100% wrong and said the leaked information is being misinterpreted. all the spying comes from documents taken from edward snowden. >>> the healthcare reform website takes another hit this weekend. the glitch sunday is linked to a data services hub that went down. the network failure impacted other government websites as well. the white house is blaming an outside contractor for the glitch, held secretary was expected to testify this week about the problems plaguing the online healthcare site. >> the federal government is granting $19 million in aide to maryland communities hit hard by superstorm sandy. one year ago tomorrow, the storm originally a hurricane, slammed into the east coast. property damage here was mainly centered on the lower eastern shore. the money can be used for damaged housing and infrastructure as well as economic developments. >>> and what a difference a year can make. we have a bright
Ñi opposed to getting republicans right. >>ñr hello again from fox news in washington. president obama ordered a techñ;su problems with the problems with the healthcare.gov, but even individual mandate. beltway, a critic of theÑi president's health care law, louisiana governor bobby jindal,Ñ'i chair of the republican governors governor, welcome back to "fox newsÑi sunday." >> thank you for having me this morning. >> president obama's trouble-shooter onÑi the obamacare website says that the problemsÑi should be fixed by the end ofñr november. here he is. >> by the end of november, healthcare.gov will work smoothly for the vast majority of users.Ñidk do you think that targetçó is?Ñi and is this -- howÑi big a problem do you think this is becoming for democrats? >> chris, i think they'll eventually fix the website. but let's remember, this is the easy part. the critical issue is when it comes time to schedule surgery, what's goingçó to happen then? i think this is symptomatic of a biggerçó problem. is thisñr administration the most competent or most liberal administration
media has basically been an attack. is that as the tough questions. seconds, bluntly, the republicans are worse than obama. that is what he is counting on. he goes after them, but was down. so far that strategy has paid dividends. lou: worse than in what context? >> devices, polarizing, fewer solutions, study is done less so for the future. lou: of sorry. i am looking for ideas. obamacare was the big idea. mitch mcconnell. i promise you that i was anyone thinking of it. then again, i have been waiting so expectedly for three and a half years for obamacare to be here, and is. what is here is disaster. we are going to see why, because you introduce the idea. who would like to take up with this panel and therefore we will why the national liberal media seems to think that president obama, despite all of the severance knows more than george w. bush knew and why is and the national media laughing as it did at mr. bush, why not laugh at mr. obama? who will take that up with the panel on become my back. stay with us. ♪ you know how painful heartburn can be. for fast, long lasting relief, u
't be political footballs for republicans and shouldn't be ignored by democrats. we need to fix obama care, upgrade obama care but right now everybody is scoring political points and nothing is getting done. >> i think van does as good a job as anyone can of depending the indefensible. this is a simple question, the president of the united states on thousands of occasions said you will not lose your insurance, you will not lose your doctor, you will not lose your hospital. now it's either true or it's not true. and you can obviously use big words but the fact is the president of the united states knowingly, i mean, if he had gone to the country and said look, about 16 million of you will lose insurance but, you know, it for the better good of the country, he might not have gotten reelected so he chose a path profoundly wrong and now they are caught up -- >> there were losers under the last system and democrats stood up and those people cannot be discriminated against because of prekpaising conditions and women. if there are losers under this new system and there appear to be some, democrat
spending. upset at the sequestration. the only fight that the republicans have won with obama since they have been in charge. this should be underneath a cap of sequestration. if you need more money, get it from reforming entitlements. neil: and trying to figure out the strategy, read the line. they don't want to raise the tax rate. it will close loopholes, special breaks and a mallet -- allowances. in other words to live and wondering if it is a sucker punch. >> it is trying to establish the line in the sand from which to negotiate. they are negotiating taxes and hinting that they will take tax off the table. it will want something for that. the republicans should not fall for that because the republicans say the taxes were never on the table. this is about spending. and our position is, we're going to hold the top line of the sequestration. if you want to change priorities within that, we will talk. neil: you are the expert. as you know, i read a prompter. i think the strategy is this, they're going to put the onus on republicans to come up with something. and then say, we're not
. in just a few hours, president obama is expected to share the limelight with the most recent republican nominee for president, mitt romney. needless to say, reminding the country of his significant contribution to the development of obama care is not something governor romney is exactly excited about. in a statement released just hours ago, romney went to great and some would say almost painful lengths to distance himself from the thing his own party hates most in the world. in the years since the massachusetts health care law went into effect, nothing has changed my view that a plan crafted to fit the unique circumstances of a single state should not be grafted on to the entire country. health reform is best crafted by states with bipartisan support and input from its employers, as we did, without raising taxes and by carefully phasing it in to avoid the type of disruptions we are seeing nationally. joining me today, democratic strategist and principal at the raven group, jamal simmons. random house executive, john meachem. and senior staff writer at salon, brian boitler. also joining
that you just showed, some republicans saying why aren't you out there getting obama care exchanges like everybody else because you should do this as the leader and her answer was, well, you know, i can't do it and seemed to suggest it's because she's a recipient of federal health care plan right now, but later, her aids clarified that it not so much that. that's not why she's not getting obama care herself or going on an exchange but it's because she's 65 and a medicare recipient and that's the reason. you can't get medicare and obama care at the same time. so that could speak to some of the continued confusion -- >> she seems -- >> hhs doesn't -- >> exactly. it's confusion. >>> the view from the left and the right. speaker gingrich, in a tweet today you said and i quote sebelius' dishonesty and testimony this morning exceeding anything president nixon was accused of. the president cannot tell the truth and survive. are you really saying -- are you comparing what she said to what richard nixon did, lying and covering up conspiracy? >> i certainly think in terms of being dishonest. take
're in a tough position. >> i'm just telling the truth. most americans want obama care to work. they think republicans should stop erasing the guy. >> wait a minute, arguably -- >> why should we stop harassing the white house? they were intentional deceitful with premiums not going up. now why shouldn't we be able to give the white house a hard time? >> absolutely. especially when you're right. democratic senator max baucus compared obama care to humpty dumpty. it's more like a humpty dump. the best argument to big government is big government. that's why it's important that you can't just talk about the website. part of this mountain of misery with obama care. the cancellations. the sticker shock. the epemployer mandate. the only thing that worked was obama's golf swing. once the website gets fixed, the media's going to say, everything's fine. that's where the republicans have to start saying, no, it's not just about the website. the website was 1 of 17 problems. >> hold on, you brought up max baucus. can i play max actually doing that nursery rhyme? hit it, max. >> let's just see how muc
with obama but the governor is a republican, rick snyder, and he's the one who appointed this guy kevin or it was what's known as an emergency measure and is basically running the city. you sort of powers over the city's budget and finances and he made the decision to put the city in bankruptcy. and so you can you see some of those you know, i guess divides over the best way to fix these things playing out in detroit. the governor when he took office made the decision to slash corporate tax rates throughout the state. you know, to lure business back to the state. he did not choose to increase aid to the largest and most troubled city. instead chose to appoint this emergency manager and move towards managed the bankruptcy. so yeah, you know, it's not as, i guess, maybe in some with texas and detroit, our michigan rather aren't as different as they seem they would be. >> jeff, i have a quick question on that front. because you and i were talking before about how even the contrast, thinking about a place being in sort of disrepair and then maybe the tide shifting. we are talking of the con
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